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RAMOS:  ‪Good morning‬‬‬

 

TWEEDY:  ‪howdy

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RAMOS:  ‪thank you for joining me‬‬‬

 

TWEEDY:  ‪you are welcome‬‬‬

 

lets do this

 

RAMOS:  ‪do you prefer to start with Practical Life or Dirty Dreams #3‬‬‬?

 

TWEEDY:  ‪makes no difference‬‬‬

 

but the battlefield video can be summed up simply with

 

I <3 videogames

 

RAMOS:  ‪i don't' know

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perhaps more like "I love shooting people down"

 

TWEEDY:  ‪i cant afford an xbox-one at the moment so putting together videos with my footage of my friends game playing is the next best thing‬‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪i don't believe you‬‬‬

 

juxtaposing killing scenes with Dancing Queen

 

TWEEDY:  ‪its not just the shooting, its all the interactivity ‬‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪what about the song?‬‬‬

 

TWEEDY:  ‪the game developers are from Sweden so...

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abba

 

RAMOS:  ‪ha - i didn't know‬‬‬

 

TWEEDY:  ‪im lying that didn't occur to me until after the fact‬‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪well i thought it was more like Dancing Queen came out in 1976‬‬‬

 

before video games

 

when interactivity looked more like dancing

 

TWEEDY:  ‪haha jesus‬‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪lol‬‬‬

 

why is killing so appealing?

 

TWEEDY:  ‪you can make anything "art" if you do enough creative scrutiny‬‬‬

 

i don't know ive never killed anyone

 

RAMOS:  ‪but you've played the game right?

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so you've killed virtual beings

 

explain how you are scrutinizing in this case

 

TWEEDY:  ‪no i was talking about you‬‬‬

 

you are the one looking for "meaning" in a video i put together because i thought it would look "cool"

 

RAMOS:  ‪I am not looking for anything‬‬‬

 

I find meaning in it without trying

 

TWEEDY:  ‪and the only audience i had in mind when making it was my friend who's game footage i was using

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because i thought he'd get a kick out of it

 

RAMOS:  ‪then why didn't you send it to him instead of posting it on vimeo?‬‬‬

 

TWEEDY:  because i think its good, from an editing aspect

 

it wasnt meant to be any social commentary

 

‪maybe you should be asking yourself these questions

 

RAMOS:  ‪sure... what questions should i be asking myself?‬‬‬

 

TWEEDY:  ‪and it was more for youtube‬‬‬

 

there are a slew of videos just like it

 

RAMOS:  ‪would you like to move on to the next video or are you going to tell me what questions I should be asking myself?‬‬‬

 

TWEEDY:  ‪we can move on‬‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪Dirty Dream #3

 

Mike Tweedy

Dirty Dream #3, 2014

Video Montage, 4 min., 06sec.

 

TWEEDY:  ‪when i was an editor in the adult industry i had a lot of access to footage i normally wouldn't and so i thought id put together a video using porn that wasn't porn

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RAMOS:  ‪so this young lady is a real porn star‬‬‬

 

TWEEDY:  ‪yup‬‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪i don't know why i thought she was a prostitute‬‬‬

 

TWEEDY:  ‪haha‬‬‬

 

really?

 

RAMOS:  ‪i guess because the men in it were blurred out‬‬‬

 

so they seemed unequal or unimportant or anonymous consumers

 

TWEEDY:  ‪thats weird‬‬‬

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well yeah that was the intention of the actual site‬‬‬

 

to give the impression of spontaneity

 

RAMOS:  ‪really... i didn't get that at all‬‬‬

 

TWEEDY:  ‪but actually now that i think of it i blurred out the faces for the video‬‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪it doesn't seem spontaneous if you are paying for it‬‬‬

 

TWEEDY:  ‪well have you visited the site?‬‬‬

 

well no one's suppose to be "paying for it" shes not suppose to be a hooker

 

these questions should be addressed to bangbros

 

RAMOS:  ‪let's keep this conversation within the constraints of the video‬‬‬

 

she is being used

 

she is not proud of what she does

 

she is not too different from a video game

 

an interface for other's pleasure

 

TWEEDY:  ‪is there a question in there?‬‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪is that what you intended with the video?‬‬‬

 

TWEEDY:  ‪porn is no different than a videogame same as movies or television... entertainment

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i had no intention

 

RAMOS:  ‪there is a difference‬‬‬

 

porn is using real people

 

video games are virtual people

 

let me ask you something

 

TWEEDY:  ‪movies, TV‬‬‬

 

‬‬+graphic sex‬‬‬

 

minus plot to story

 

RAMOS:  ‪when you kill virtual people

 

‪do you identify them as real?

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TWEEDY:  ‪thats an offensively stupid question

 

so yes.  i imagine they are real people

 

and when i kill them i get en erection

 

RAMOS:  ‪let me as you another question‬‬‬

 

TWEEDY:  ‪haha‬‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪do you think porn stars are acting?‬‬‬

 

TWEEDY:  ‪of course‬‬‬

 

i know they are

 

everyone does

 

RAMOS:  ‪i never saw it that way‬‬‬

 

TWEEDY:  ‪we pretend they aren't for the fantasy aspect

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RAMOS:  ‪that's a bit twisted I guess... i never saw them as actresses

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and maybe that's wrong on my part

 

TWEEDY:  ‪thats weird‬‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪i know‬‬‬

 

it just seems so personal, intimate, invasive, raw

 

TWEEDY:  ‪i feel like im talking to an A.I. that is trying to understand what it is to be human

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are you a robot Olivia?

 

RAMOS:  ‪you are making feel like one

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and maybe that's a good thing

 

maybe i can seek to be more human after this conversation

 

what a gift

 

so you said you had no intentions making this video

 

how can that be true

 

how can you make something without intention?

 

TWEEDY:  ‪just to be dramatic‬‬‬

 

cause i think its funny

 

RAMOS:  ‪it seems like you have a layer of indifference over real feelings‬‬‬

 

TWEEDY:  ‪i wish‬‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪and you call me a robot‬‬‬

 

so you don't consider yourself an artist?

 

even comic relief can be a form of art

 

TWEEDY:  ‪i am very emotional about many things but porn and videogames are not one of them

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well maybe videogames because i love them so

 

and not because of the violence. theres amazing storytelling in them

 

and art and creativity beyond anything i could ever do myself

 

but with videogames you still get to be apart of it

 

youre less of a voyeur

 

RAMOS:  ‪do you find video games a way to escape your reality?

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TWEEDY:  ‪are you kidding?

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RAMOS:  ‪no‬‬‬

 

TWEEDY:  ‪yes Olivia‬‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪is life not like a video game already?

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TWEEDY:  ‪and thats what art is.  its interactive art‬‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪video game = art because it imitates life in an abstract form?‬‬‬

 

TWEEDY:  ‪its art when compared to anything else considered art

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and if someone has trouble seeing that i really don't know what else to say

 

RAMOS:  ‪i don't care one way or another so i'm not trying to push for one school of thought in particular‬‬‬

 

i guess i'm more interested in the escape factor

 

TWEEDY:  ‪i don't even see it as a school of thought.  it just is.

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there are things that are, and there are things people are ignorant of.

 

RAMOS:  ‪and all that can be the same thing‬‬‬

 

TWEEDY:  ‪and those are the same thing.‬‬‬

 

yup

 

RAMOS:  ‪we are in agreement‬‬‬

 

but why do we need so many avenues of escape

 

porn, video games, TV series, drugs, relationships... etc..

 

TWEEDY:  ‪its up to the person to decide which or how many avenues of escape they need‬‬‬

 

when it comes to the abundance of art i think thats contingent on how many people there are with the ability and desire to create

 

RAMOS:  ‪and the ability and desire to consume‬‬‬

 

TWEEDY:  ‪different strokes

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well thats when profit comes into play

 

im not getting into that

 

RAMOS:  ‪we don't have to‬‬‬

 

it's pretty obvious

 

TWEEDY:  ‪hahah‬‬‬‬‬‬