Unedited conversations between artist in a productive critique  discovering  thesis and processes behind the work.








Conversation between Mike Tweedy and Olivia Ramos.


Mike Tweedy

Practical Life is...., 2015

Video Montage, 4 min., 30sec.

RAMOS:  ‪Good morning‬‬‬


TWEEDY:  ‪howdy


thank you for joining me‬‬‬


you are welcome‬‬‬


lets do this


do you prefer to start with Practical Life or Dirty Dreams #3‬‬‬?


‪makes no difference‬‬‬


but the battlefield video can be summed up simply with


I <3 videogames


i don't' know


perhaps more like "I love shooting people down"


i cant afford an xbox-one at the moment so putting together videos with my footage of my friends game playing is the next best thing‬‬‬


‪i don't believe you‬‬‬


juxtaposing killing scenes with Dancing Queen


‪its not just the shooting, its all the interactivity ‬‬‬


what about the song?‬‬‬


‪the game developers are from Sweden so...




‪ha - i didn't know‬‬‬


‪im lying that didn't occur to me until after the fact‬‬‬


well i thought it was more like Dancing Queen came out in 1976‬‬‬


before video games


when interactivity looked more like dancing


‪haha jesus‬‬‬




why is killing so appealing?


you can make anything "art" if you do enough creative scrutiny‬‬‬


i don't know ive never killed anyone


but you've played the game right?


so you've killed virtual beings


explain how you are scrutinizing in this case


‪no i was talking about you‬‬‬


you are the one looking for "meaning" in a video i put together because i thought it would look "cool"


‪I am not looking for anything‬‬‬


I find meaning in it without trying


and the only audience i had in mind when making it was my friend who's game footage i was using


because i thought he'd get a kick out of it


‪then why didn't you send it to him instead of posting it on vimeo?‬‬‬


because i think its good, from an editing aspect


it wasnt meant to be any social commentary


‪maybe you should be asking yourself these questions


‪sure... what questions should i be asking myself?‬‬‬


and it was more for youtube‬‬‬


there are a slew of videos just like it


‪would you like to move on to the next video or are you going to tell me what questions I should be asking myself?‬‬‬


we can move on‬‬‬


Dirty Dream #3


Mike Tweedy

Dirty Dream #3, 2014

Video Montage, 4 min., 06sec.


‪when i was an editor in the adult industry i had a lot of access to footage i normally wouldn't and so i thought id put together a video using porn that wasn't porn


so this young lady is a real porn star‬‬‬




‪i don't know why i thought she was a prostitute‬‬‬






‪i guess because the men in it were blurred out‬‬‬


so they seemed unequal or unimportant or anonymous consumers


‪thats weird‬‬‬


well yeah that was the intention of the actual site‬‬‬


to give the impression of spontaneity


‪really... i didn't get that at all‬‬‬


but actually now that i think of it i blurred out the faces for the video‬‬‬


‪it doesn't seem spontaneous if you are paying for it‬‬‬


well have you visited the site?‬‬‬


well no one's suppose to be "paying for it" shes not suppose to be a hooker


these questions should be addressed to bangbros


‪let's keep this conversation within the constraints of the video‬‬‬


she is being used


she is not proud of what she does


she is not too different from a video game


an interface for other's pleasure


is there a question in there?‬‬‬


‪is that what you intended with the video?‬‬‬


porn is no different than a videogame same as movies or television... entertainment


i had no intention


‪there is a difference‬‬‬


porn is using real people


video games are virtual people


let me ask you something


movies, TV‬‬‬


‬‬+graphic sex‬‬‬


minus plot to story


‪when you kill virtual people


‪do you identify them as real?


thats an offensively stupid question


so yes.  i imagine they are real people


and when i kill them i get en erection


‪let me as you another question‬‬‬




‪do you think porn stars are acting?‬‬‬


of course‬‬‬


i know they are


everyone does


i never saw it that way‬‬‬


we pretend they aren't for the fantasy aspect


‪that's a bit twisted I guess... i never saw them as actresses


and maybe that's wrong on my part


thats weird‬‬‬


‪i know‬‬‬


it just seems so personal, intimate, invasive, raw


‪i feel like im talking to an A.I. that is trying to understand what it is to be human


are you a robot Olivia?


you are making feel like one


and maybe that's a good thing


maybe i can seek to be more human after this conversation


what a gift


so you said you had no intentions making this video


how can that be true


how can you make something without intention?


just to be dramatic‬‬‬


cause i think its funny


‪it seems like you have a layer of indifference over real feelings‬‬‬


‪i wish‬‬‬


‪and you call me a robot‬‬‬


so you don't consider yourself an artist?


even comic relief can be a form of art


‪i am very emotional about many things but porn and videogames are not one of them


well maybe videogames because i love them so


and not because of the violence. theres amazing storytelling in them


and art and creativity beyond anything i could ever do myself


but with videogames you still get to be apart of it


youre less of a voyeur


do you find video games a way to escape your reality?


are you kidding?




yes Olivia‬‬‬


‪is life not like a video game already?


and thats what art is.  its interactive art‬‬‬


‪video game = art because it imitates life in an abstract form?‬‬‬


its art when compared to anything else considered art


and if someone has trouble seeing that i really don't know what else to say


i don't care one way or another so i'm not trying to push for one school of thought in particular‬‬‬


i guess i'm more interested in the escape factor


‪i don't even see it as a school of thought.  it just is.


there are things that are, and there are things people are ignorant of.


‪and all that can be the same thing‬‬‬


‪and those are the same thing.‬‬‬




we are in agreement‬‬‬


but why do we need so many avenues of escape


porn, video games, TV series, drugs, relationships... etc..


‪its up to the person to decide which or how many avenues of escape they need‬‬‬


when it comes to the abundance of art i think thats contingent on how many people there are with the ability and desire to create


‪and the ability and desire to consume‬‬‬


‪different strokes


well thats when profit comes into play


im not getting into that


we don't have to‬‬‬


it's pretty obvious