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Conversation between Mike Tweedy and Olivia Ramos.
Practical Life is...., 2015
Video Montage, 4 min., 30sec.
RAMOS: Good morning
thank you for joining me
you are welcome
lets do this
do you prefer to start with Practical Life or Dirty Dreams #3?
makes no difference
but the battlefield video can be summed up simply with
I <3 videogames
i don't' know
perhaps more like "I love shooting people down"
i cant afford an xbox-one at the moment so putting together videos with my footage of my friends game playing is the next best thing
i don't believe you
juxtaposing killing scenes with Dancing Queen
its not just the shooting, its all the interactivity
what about the song?
the game developers are from Sweden so...
ha - i didn't know
im lying that didn't occur to me until after the fact
well i thought it was more like Dancing Queen came out in 1976
before video games
when interactivity looked more like dancing
why is killing so appealing?
you can make anything "art" if you do enough creative scrutiny
i don't know ive never killed anyone
but you've played the game right?
so you've killed virtual beings
explain how you are scrutinizing in this case
no i was talking about you
you are the one looking for "meaning" in a video i put together because i thought it would look "cool"
I am not looking for anything
I find meaning in it without trying
and the only audience i had in mind when making it was my friend who's game footage i was using
because i thought he'd get a kick out of it
then why didn't you send it to him instead of posting it on vimeo?
because i think its good, from an editing aspect
it wasnt meant to be any social commentary
maybe you should be asking yourself these questions
sure... what questions should i be asking myself?
and it was more for youtube
there are a slew of videos just like it
would you like to move on to the next video or are you going to tell me what questions I should be asking myself?
we can move on
Dirty Dream #3
Dirty Dream #3, 2014
Video Montage, 4 min., 06sec.
when i was an editor in the adult industry i had a lot of access to footage i normally wouldn't and so i thought id put together a video using porn that wasn't porn
so this young lady is a real porn star
i don't know why i thought she was a prostitute
i guess because the men in it were blurred out
so they seemed unequal or unimportant or anonymous consumers
well yeah that was the intention of the actual site
to give the impression of spontaneity
really... i didn't get that at all
but actually now that i think of it i blurred out the faces for the video
it doesn't seem spontaneous if you are paying for it
well have you visited the site?
well no one's suppose to be "paying for it" shes not suppose to be a hooker
these questions should be addressed to bangbros
let's keep this conversation within the constraints of the video
she is being used
she is not proud of what she does
she is not too different from a video game
an interface for other's pleasure
is there a question in there?
is that what you intended with the video?
porn is no different than a videogame same as movies or television... entertainment
i had no intention
there is a difference
porn is using real people
video games are virtual people
let me ask you something
minus plot to story
when you kill virtual people
do you identify them as real?
thats an offensively stupid question
so yes. i imagine they are real people
and when i kill them i get en erection
let me as you another question
do you think porn stars are acting?
i know they are
i never saw it that way
we pretend they aren't for the fantasy aspect
that's a bit twisted I guess... i never saw them as actresses
and maybe that's wrong on my part
it just seems so personal, intimate, invasive, raw
i feel like im talking to an A.I. that is trying to understand what it is to be human
are you a robot Olivia?
you are making feel like one
and maybe that's a good thing
maybe i can seek to be more human after this conversation
what a gift
so you said you had no intentions making this video
how can that be true
how can you make something without intention?
just to be dramatic
cause i think its funny
it seems like you have a layer of indifference over real feelings
and you call me a robot
so you don't consider yourself an artist?
even comic relief can be a form of art
i am very emotional about many things but porn and videogames are not one of them
well maybe videogames because i love them so
and not because of the violence. theres amazing storytelling in them
and art and creativity beyond anything i could ever do myself
but with videogames you still get to be apart of it
youre less of a voyeur
do you find video games a way to escape your reality?
are you kidding?
is life not like a video game already?
and thats what art is. its interactive art
video game = art because it imitates life in an abstract form?
its art when compared to anything else considered art
and if someone has trouble seeing that i really don't know what else to say
i don't care one way or another so i'm not trying to push for one school of thought in particular
i guess i'm more interested in the escape factor
i don't even see it as a school of thought. it just is.
there are things that are, and there are things people are ignorant of.
and all that can be the same thing
and those are the same thing.
we are in agreement
but why do we need so many avenues of escape
porn, video games, TV series, drugs, relationships... etc..
its up to the person to decide which or how many avenues of escape they need
when it comes to the abundance of art i think thats contingent on how many people there are with the ability and desire to create
and the ability and desire to consume
well thats when profit comes into play
im not getting into that
we don't have to
it's pretty obvious