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Image Woodgate found Online.

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today in the morning i saw this

 

Soto: hmm... maybe it's living in this internet day and age, but i'm not that impressed

 

Woodgate: are you serious!!!! dud is walking on air!

 

Soto: ah! you see the poetry in it...

 

it is beautiful in that sense.

 

Woodgate: we have a parallel world

 

i am interested in when these two meet

 

you know.... sometimes they intersect

 

intersect looks like insects

 

same letters?

 

Soto: that poetry i appreciate more

 

Woodgate: it’s this wind that’s coming in that reminded me of that balloon picture

 

Soto: i see.

 

so you are referring to a parallel world which we cannot see?

 

what are these two worlds exactly?

 

Woodgate: well actually, there are even more worlds... now that i think about it.

 

but the word world is a little strange, maybe spheres

 

Soto: ok

 

Woodgate: you were not impressed because you spend time on the internet

 

what is it about the web that makes things unimpressed you?

 

Soto: just this never-ending amount of "shocking" "disturbing" or even "new" imagery that desensitizes

 

or maybe a better way to put it is that it pushes us to evolve at a faster rate... which pushes generations further apart

 

makes us more different faster

 

like teens now aren't impressed by much, compared to us

 

Woodgate: pushes generations further apart...

 

that refers to people, traditions and the way its transfered

 

today transmission goes online

 

remember when Teddy Abrams made the comparison between the music we were hearing and rock and roll.

 

CONTEXT

 

sorry for caps

 

Soto: haha

 

i think it was warranted

 

can u elaborate on that further?

 

the correlation between what Teddy said and online dissemination of information

 

Woodgate: it just made me think about the complexities of cultural transmission and the connection between generations

 

the music these musicians are playing is old.

 

Soto: but if played in an updated way, it can become contemporary again?

 

give it some added poetry

 

Woodgate: maybe the added poetry is not needed...

 

if it is still relevant then it is contemporary

 

Garden Music Festival, Fairchild Tropical Botanic Gardens, Miami, Fl

Collaboration between Misael Soto and Agustina Woodgate and Resident Musicians

January 9, 11, 15, 17, and 18, 2015

 

Soto: then what were we doing there?

 

Woodgate: integrating

 

blending boundaries

 

Soto: playing

 

not adding or enhancing, but pushing

 

Woodgate: i really like how playing makes sense in both music and game

 

Soto: yup, me too

 

i always go back to that word... even it makes me sound dumb

 

Woodgate: same here

 

we were moving very freely

 

Soto: yes, it felt like a new form

 

even though its not... not really

 

Woodgate: i know what you mean, but it did feel like free play

 

Soto: no pressure

 

which is how it should always feel, no?

 

Woodgate: even the Chihuly’s started looking good

 

Soto: hahaha!

 

we were (on a creative) high

 

Woodgate: i think it was the garden effect

 

Soto: all that pollen in the air

 

Woodgate: there is something about garden architecture and design that is meditative. they makes so much sense

 

you must have seen some good ones on the other side no?

 

Soto: other side?

 

Woodgate: Asia

 

Soto: oh! yes... definitely

 

with different, though universal sensibilities

 

Woodgate: Fairchild looks like the amusement park style garden...

 

remember how they cover the buildings... illusions

 

Soto: yes! it's all a show

 

even if it's just plants

 

Woodgate: the plant show

 

Soto: uh huh

 

played for sure... in what we did

 

Woodgate: I recently wrote a poem

 

Soto: oh?

 

Woodgate: Plan

 

Plan  t

 

Planet

 

Soto: what kind of poem is that?

 

Woodgate: no se... a conceptual poem?

 

Soto: that's it... it just is.

 

i feel as though i'm just now developing how to channel "it", how to flow with it, listen to it.

 

how do i explain...

 

well, this idea we spoke about during our project at Fairchild (which has really stuck with me, and has been an exciting badge of sorts to wear going into the new year)

 

...about how our studio practice is doing. it's in the world as much as or more so than it exists in a physical studio

 

it's really hard because the world doesn't work this way. we have to make it and do it for ourselves

 

you're much better at this than i am

 

Woodgate: no limits

 

Soto: none!

 

Woodgate: you can't sketch these things. the outside is the test site

we were running a series of experiments and the only way to try them and learn from them is by doing them, making it happen

 

Soto: AND not giving a shit about it appearing like a finished project.

 

Woodgate: miss!!!!! are you kidding!!!!!

 

what we did there was such a little test. We are ready to take it next level and I can't wait!!!

 

Soto: omg. me too!

 

and of course we care what it is in the moment. we have our aesthetic sensibilities after all, but we have a simultaneous need to see it as part of a larger practice

 

like you said, a sketch that leads to a greater piece, which leads to a greater one, etc.

 

Woodgate: indeed

 

can you imagine an entire orchestra in full camo suits

 

Soto: i would die

 

Woodgate: straight to heaven

 

Soto: seriously

 

Woodgate: we are one step closer to doing so :)

 

Soto: we always are and that's important to keep in mind

 

...and oh so easy to forget

 

how long have you been working this way?

 

or rather... how long have you been evolving this style of practice?

 

Woodgate: maybe always... but i am conscious now, before it was intuitive

 

Soto: a very important distinction

 

i think i have as well, but to be conscious about it allows us to calculate it and stay focused

 

Woodgate: my brain is bouncing on thoughts

 

Soto: spit them out!

 

Woodgate: i am thinking in scattered ways

 

when you do something, and then you set yourself to do it again, it is never the same. never

 

sometimes I find myself more excited about the future than the present

as if these types of sketches enable to imagine the bigger pictures, the potential

 

Soto: yes! i can definitely relate to this

 

i find, as long as the excitement continues to translate into some kind of reality in the present... it's ok

 

gotta keep moving... like a shark

 

Woodgate: thats why it felt like we were playing, no?

 

Soto: yes! and that the future from those pieces is going to be really good

 

Woodgate: yeahhhh

 

Soto: i kind of continued with some of those idea in Mexico at the Material Art Fair last week...

 

Woodgate: How nice. Me too. We both had in mind the other, the audience, the listener. Contextual artists

 

Soto: yes yes. we are

 

Woodgate: what is it that stayed with you the most?

 

Soto: well, i'm in a really good place in this sense (much of it thanks to a continuation of the spirit of our collaboration). in a place where i can create ways to experiment in the world.

 

i've been obsessed with a hyper awareness within an arts context... both in a museum and, after Mexico City, an art fair setting... and doing performative works freely which i see as building towards something greater and greater.

 

not all of them as successful as others... but i would never know otherwise, not truly

 

so, what has stayed with me the most? Freedom

 

Woodgate: so nice to read you

 

Soto: ;)

 

Woodgate: also, the collaboration with the musicians is interesting, don't you think

 

their dialogue is quite different, but at the same time, the creative spirit is there

 

Soto: oh, for sure! such a fascinating curve ball

 

i haven't met people that talented and creative that were so different than "us"

 

Woodgate: and they see us with those same eyes, so there is this exploration atmosphere that sets a stage for great connections

 

its like a third platform opens up

 

ultimately fulfilling for everyone involved

 

Soto: yes! another example of the possibilities that exist in the world... you just have to keep telling yourself they're there and i believe you'll keep finding them

 

Woodgate: but it’s not only the people, but also the places.

 

don't you think?

 

i mean.... people are buildings

 

Soto: haha!

 

yes i agree

 

i guess i'm just thinking how you ultimately have to convince people to make things happen

 

context implied

 

Woodgate: i also see it as part of a play in the theater way.

 

using the musicians as tools, in a way

 

Soto: yes… we played them and they played instruments

 

Woodgate: what a joke.

 

new poem:

 

play

play

play

 

Soto: i'm interested in adding more and more "play"s to that

 

Woodgate: we found three for now right?

 

Soto: easy, yup

 

for now...

 

Woodgate: i guess we need to keep on playing to find them

 

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