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Oil on Canvas
18 x 25 in.
Ramos: the pieces are Oil on Canvas 18 x 25 in.
Millett: do they have names?
if I had to come up with a name... Urban Lights or Urban Ladies
but I prefer them untitled
Millett: what do you think of them?
Ramos: I am happy with them, enjoyed your challenge to get rid of sexual organs last time we spoke
felt more connected to the work that way, it being less representative, at least in such an obvious way
are they finished?
at least this first one is
Ramos: the second one doesn't feel as finished but maybe because I just finished working on it
Oil on Canvas
18 x 25 in.
Ramos: either way, I won't add anything further to it
so yes, they are both finished
Millett: ok, so a few quick observations
technically, i think the large piece from last month is more successful in the paint applications..
it is 'lighter' palette wise, you seem more comfortable
this seems rough, like searching, its ok i think it'll just take a happy medium between the two
Ramos: i do
i do follow, this time around I had no preconception of the outcome, at all,
and there is a sense of discomfort
and it does show in the brush stroke
even till the very last stroke i felt uncomfortable
Millett: do you have a preference in size and scale?
Ramos: I prefer working bigger, the size, them being smaller, did make it more constricted
but at the same time, I like this outcome more, less refined, as if there was less ego in the stroke
Millett: ok, so conceptually
I think the work needs more focus and refinement moving forward
which i think would also help when you actually apply the paint
more clarity (for yourself) with your ideas may result in more confidence when you tackle the next work
Ramos: sure i see that
more clarity in the idea, not in the representation of them
which i think a bit of that is happening here, more than before, as in I'm getting closer to the core of the idea
but i agree it is not very refined, I'm sort of happy with that
at least at this point
i will be interesting to see what happens when i go bigger and have bigger intentions
Millett: you definitely moved away from representation
Ramos: that was the only goal really
Millett: now the trick is to strike a balance
Ramos: yes i agree
without going back to representation
without going back to the premeditative sketch
Ramos: perhaps bringing more of the collage concept we spoke of
as a tool of definition and refinement
Millett: sure, there's definitely a need for more experimentation with your technique
I think you need to keep that in mind and begin to decide if work is 'successful' or if you are 'happy' with it by asking questions
is this conveying my ideas to my audience? on its own, without me explaining it
you don't see what these are about, even after knowing the narrative well
Millett: me personally?
Millett: I don't
Ramos: I'll tell you just for fun
same as before... there are female and male buildings, the females take in the light, the source, and create form with it, and the males bounce the light off from their shell
gender as it relates to urban landscapes
they are cities, these paintings
Millett: for you they are
which brings me to my last point
the more you paint, get dirty, make ugly things, make great things etc..
you will develop a syntax, a kinda language unto itself
that will communicate and engage with your audience to some degree
now its all new and we are all in the discovery phase of your work