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Conversation between POORGRRRL and Olivia Ramos.
the bluezZz, 2016
Music Video, 4 min., 59 sec.
RAMOS: Hi Tara
LONG: hey gorl
Would you send me the music video?
yea. well i have 2
send me both
Music Video, 4 min., 59 sec.
I'm five minutes into the first one (TRIPTIC) - and already I see a major difference in refinement, editing, condensing, structuring, and narrative from the second video (the bluezZz)
What is that transformation about?
oh shit just saw the other question
It just makes me wonder about the shift
so... sorry just trying to word this right
No rush at all
there is this perception of miami that i wanted to portray in the first one, and in the 2nd i needed to redirect the focus
more sincere in a way
still not saying that right but close
The first one is sort of a haze, a bit of a dark haze - which can very well describe some Miami experiences
I thought you were typing... Well the second some is a very specific escape
haha.. i was typing ... but then reread and was answering a question u didnt ask
yes the 2nd one is more specific
In the second one, the escapes are via smoking and another person - as if you had very little control of your own state of joy
Would you agree? And I mean "you" as in the character in the video
yes ur pretty spot on there
a state of having little power in a way seems to affect a pretty large portion of society
loss of control
Low self esteem
its something i'm very interested in sociologically, especially when it comes to women
The loss of power has a long historical trajectory
this 'damsel in distress' syndrome
Right and the interesting thing is - well if that other person will not make me happy - I will leave this reality entirely
I can deff identify with that
And would say that's more at the tale end of history - or not actually
What makes your second video relevant is that you are now talking about it from the contemporary view
thanks... theres a lot i start to think about when it comes to all this so excuse my ... stalling moments
There's no rush at all
That's why I like this format
yea its chill
Tell me about this Poorgrrrl character you've created
LONG: oy ve
this poorgrrrl chick is so confusing
Confusing to you or to me?
in general. the foundation of her being is confusion and doubt
there is this raw confidence
the kind u can only get after u been so low that u have truly felt what it is to not give a fuck for real
Is her poverty a monetary poverty or a mental poverty?
so poorgrrrl is like, sitting right on that line
her poverty blankets everything
poor is poor is poor
Well there are rich people that are poor
And there are poor people that are joyous
Poorgrrrl is hopeless
she kinda joyous in her physical poverty
Ok - perhaps also joyous in her youth
hopeless is a good term
What is she escaping from?
Isn't reality subjective?
from instagram into the real world, she is unamused.
Is she spoiled?
Is she selfish?
Why does she expect amusement?
her world is filled with mindless entertainment.
she is doing what she sees, kind of like a child who imitates what they see, mindlessly.
she is like the personification of a critique on entertainment, that doesn't know she is being used. .... ehh but see this is only one aspect.
Tell me more then
its coming lol
ok there is the part that i told you, which is this sort of absorption of her surroundings that she cant help because its so over powering, and then there is this side that is rebelling against that.
rejection of a lot of expectations or tropes/stereotypes in media. sex = power ect.
she is basically just like, a teenager on the internet lol
Well I see that and I am attracted to the part where she rejects the expectation that, for example, Beyoncé is fulfilled.
And it's strange to even mention that name but it is such a force - an inverse force of Poorgrrrl
yea pop culture is fuel for her fire hahahaha
My question or what I wonder is - is she hurting herself as much as her inverse?
By being the inverse, is she trapped in the same game?
and that is where the work is
if you are asking what i think you are asking
What do you think I'm asking?
haha. are you asking ... is she what she hates?
Well yes - is her purpose to be free?
she will never be free
By being the inverse of her hate - she carries that DNA
but 4 real
yes. she is what she hates
Why can't she be free?
Is that up to you?
she is trapped.
Does that mean you can't be free?
i have a much better shot then her.
her persona exist much like that of a clown, she will eternally represent that state of being.
something really major happens
She is a reflection - and unless the world changes she can't change
Is that what you mean?
that was very beautifully put Olivia
yea thats it