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Conversation between POORGRRRL and Olivia Ramos.

 

POORGRRRL

the bluezZz, 2016

Music Video, 4 min., 59 sec.

(Parachute Records)

RAMOS: Hi Tara

 

LONG: hey gorl

 

lol

 

Haha

 

Would you send me the music video?

 

yea. well i have 2

 

send me both

 

ok cool

 

POORGRRRL

TRIPTIC, 2015

Music Video, 4 min., 59 sec.

(Parachute Records)

 

I'm five minutes into the first one (TRIPTIC) - and already I see a major difference in refinement, editing, condensing, structuring, and narrative from the second video (the bluezZz)

 

What is that transformation about?

 

for sure

 

lol

 

oh shit just saw the other question

 

Haha

 

It just makes me wonder about the shift

 

so... sorry just trying to word this right

 

No rush at all

 

there is this perception of miami that i wanted to portray in the first one, and in the 2nd i needed to redirect the focus

 

more sincere in a way

 

still not saying that right but close

 

The first one is sort of a haze, a bit of a dark haze - which can very well describe some Miami experiences

 

Lol

 

I thought you were typing... Well the second some is a very specific escape

 

haha.. i was typing ... but then reread and was answering a question u didnt ask

 

yes the 2nd one is more specific

 

In the second one, the escapes are via smoking and another person - as if you had very little control of your own state of joy

 

Would you agree? And I mean "you" as in the character in the video

 

yes ur pretty spot on there

 

a state of having little power in a way seems to affect a pretty large portion of society

 

loss of control

 

Low self esteem

 

its something i'm very interested in sociologically, especially when it comes to women

 

The loss of power has a long historical trajectory

 

this 'damsel in distress' syndrome

 

Right and the interesting thing is - well if that other person will not make me happy - I will leave this reality entirely

 

I can deff identify with that

 

And would say that's more at the tale end of history - or not actually

 

What makes your second video relevant is that you are now talking about it from the contemporary view

 

thanks... theres a lot i start to think about when it comes to all this so excuse my ... stalling moments

 

There's no rush at all

 

That's why I like this format

 

yea its chill

 

Tell me about this Poorgrrrl character you've created

 

LONG: oy ve

 

hahaha

 

jk

 

this poorgrrrl chick is so confusing

 

Confusing to you or to me?

 

in general. the foundation of her being is confusion and doubt

 

but then...

 

there is this raw confidence

 

the kind u can only get after u been so low that u have truly felt what it is to not give a fuck for real

 

Is her poverty a monetary poverty or a mental poverty?

 

so poorgrrrl is like, sitting right on that line

 

her poverty blankets everything

 

poor is poor is poor

 

Well there are rich people that are poor

 

yes

 

And there are poor people that are joyous

 

yes

 

Poorgrrrl is hopeless

 

she kinda joyous in her physical poverty

 

Ok - perhaps also joyous in her youth

 

hopeless is a good term

 

an escapist

 

What is she escaping from?

 

Herself?

 

reality

 

Isn't reality subjective?

 

from instagram into the real world, she is unamused.

 

Is she spoiled?

 

Is she selfish?

 

Why does she expect amusement?

 

her world is filled with mindless entertainment.

 

she is doing what she sees, kind of like a child who imitates what they see, mindlessly.

 

she is like the personification of a critique on entertainment, that doesn't know she is being used. .... ehh but see this is only one aspect.

 

Tell me more then

 

its coming lol

 

Lol

 

ok there is the part that i told you, which is this sort of absorption of her surroundings that she cant help because its so over powering, and then there is this side that is rebelling against that.

 

rejection of a lot of expectations or tropes/stereotypes in media.  sex = power ect.

 

she is basically just like, a teenager on the internet lol

 

Well I see that and I am attracted to the part where she rejects the expectation that, for example, Beyoncé is fulfilled.

 

And it's strange to even mention that name but it is such a force - an inverse force of Poorgrrrl

 

for SURE

 

yea pop culture is fuel for her fire hahahaha

 

My question or what I wonder is - is she hurting herself as much as her inverse?

 

By being the inverse, is she trapped in the same game?

 

and that is where the work is

 

if you are asking what i think you are asking

 

What do you think I'm asking?

 

haha. are you asking ... is she what she hates?

 

Well yes - is her purpose to be free?

 

she will never be free

 

lol

 

By being the inverse of her hate - she carries that DNA

 

but 4 real

 

Why not?

 

yes. she is what she hates

 

Why can't she be free?

 

Is that up to you?

 

she is trapped.

 

Does that mean you can't be free?

 

i have a much better shot then her.

 

her persona exist much like that of a clown, she will eternally represent that state of being.

 

unless...

 

something really major happens

 

She is a reflection - and unless the world changes she can't change

 

Is that what you mean?

 

that was very beautifully put Olivia

 

yea thats it