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Fededico Nessi's favorite David Bowie picture.

 

NESSI:  ‪Hi there!‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪Hi Freddy‬‬

 

thank you for joining me

 

NESSI:  ‪Thanks for having me!‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪i am glad you suggested speaking about David Bowie‬‬

 

‪it was heartbreaking to face this reality that he is no longer an active member of this lifetime‬‬

 

NESSI:  ‪Heartbroken is exactly how I felt too‬‬

 

I've never reacted this way to the death of a stranger

 

RAMOS:  ‪it is hard to call him a stranger‬‬

 

NESSI:  ‪True. Although I never met him he's been an active part of my life...‬‬

 

‪But I always had a hard time relating to people grieving over the death of people that were not a tangible part of their lives…. ‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪i guess tangible is relative‬‬

 

NESSI:  ‪Celebrity deaths are so often linked to substance abuse. Although they of course remain sad, we've become desensitized to the notion of the tragic end of rock star.

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But Bowie had transcended that...

 

RAMOS:  ‪Bowie had many years in sobriety... decades

 

one of the things i admired the most about him

 

NESSI:  ‪Exactly. He transcended everything really. When looking back at Bowie you think of his many personas of course. Even drugged out 70s Bowie, its impossible to fit him into the rock-star mold

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RAMOS:  ‪let's start there... tell me about your favorite early Bowie video‬‬

 

NESSI:  ‪Well I first saw Space Oddity of course

David Bowie

Space Oddity, 1969

Music Video

3 min., 48 sec.

NESSI: I was around 10 and remember being so stimulated by the androgynous nature of this being

 

This was the early 90s so I had seen my fair share of boy george-esque gender bending personalities

 

But Bowie was different

 

RAMOS:  ‪Space Oddity came out in 1969 right?‬‬

 

NESSI:  ‪Yes. Right around the time of first moon landing‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪ahhh i didn't make that connection‬‬

 

 NESSI:  ‪Yeah! Space Oddity found success as the moon-landing song really..‬‬

 

‪It managed to humanize this event, hard to process by most at the time.

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RAMOS:  ‪right.. from the perspective of the astronaut - it seems like the event was so nationalistic and political otherwise

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NESSI:  ‪Definitely. Or simply a concept of science fiction, hard to grasp. ‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪right... that too‬‬

 

its curious how "The Man Who Sold the World" came shortly after in 1970

 

NESSI:  ‪After obsessively reading about Bowie the past couple of weeks, its hard to think of anything as not completely premeditated and linked to some sort of psychic or cosmic calling ‬‬

 

‪Did you know he was training to be a buddhist monk before deciding on a career in music? ‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪i did not‬‬

 

but it does give me a sense of comfort and trust about his work

 

seems like artist do that after a career in music

 

NESSI:  ‪No, in his case his Buddhist teacher told him he'd make a more significant impact on the world through music….

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He was right

 

RAMOS:  ‪absolutely‬‬

 

NESSI:  ‪Anyway, Space Oddity was an obvious intro to Bowie for me. But if I have to pick an early video that really impacted me it would be Starman

 

David Bowie

Starman, 1972

Music Video

3 min., 30 sec.

RAMOS:  ‪you think he is talking about God?‬‬

 

NESSI:  ‪Yes. God, the universe, the creator, the unknown...‬‬

 

But what really got me about this video was his confidence.

 

RAMOS:  ‪yes... absolutely‬‬

 

as if he knew something we didn't

 

as if it was all between him and God

 

and nothing else mattered

 

NESSI:  ‪Nothing else… and there is no doubt he was tapped into outer-worldly frequencies.‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪yes i can understand that - see that in his stare‬‬

 

his smirk

 

"he told us not to blow it, cause he knows it's all worthwhile"

 

NESSI:  ‪hahahha we've sure blown in‬‬

 

But, yes, that confidence. As someone who's dabbled in performance, that confidence is all I could've ever hoped for.

 

RAMOS:  ‪why not?‬‬

 

why don't you make it just about you and "Source"

 

and trust that nothing else matters

 

NESSI:  ‪You have to trust in the importance of your message...‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪if you trust source then the message is not yours‬‬

 

you are simply the antenna

 

i see that in Bowie

 

he knew it wasn't his message

 

he was just the transmitter

 

NESSI:  ‪He was the messenger  ‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪right‬‬

 

the key is tapping into the message

 

not creating it from scratch

 

NESSI:  ‪Having the sensitivity and patience to  be able to observe, process and interpret ‬‬

 

…. and then turning out something universally significant. That's the kicker‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪well if it comes from source it is universal by nature‬‬

 

NESSI:  ‪The message can very easily get spoiled though‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪only if one tries to manipulate it‬‬

 

not if it's raw

 

NESSI:  ‪Yes. It all boils down to the 'transmitter' then. ‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪keep the signal clear‬‬

 

his lead guitarist Mick Ronson died over twenty years ago

 

did you read about that?

 

in your research I mean

 

NESSI:  ‪I knew he had died. I also knew about their undoubtedly psychic musical connection (you can see that in the Starman video) but there was so much info thrown at me the past couple of weeks, I did not do more research on Mick Ronson. ‬‬

 

Its funny to call it research actually

 

RAMOS:  ‪he died of liver cancer - most likely due to heavy drinking - i wonder if it had anything to do with Bowie getting sober‬‬

 

NESSI:  ‪I'm curious to know how closely linked they stayed after Bowie got sober…. ‬‬

 

I've got more research to do.

 

RAMOS:  ‪yes.... well Bowie got sober in the late 70s‬‬

 

NESSI:  ‪Right. Like did they lose touch when Bowie left to Berlin to work with Iggy Pop and Eno?

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I have no idea….

 

Maybe he drank heavily to overcome the loss of this relationship

 

RAMOS:  ‪i think they split in 1973‬‬

 

he drank heavily because he drank heavily

 

NESSI:  ‪You never know! ‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪Mick later played with Morrisey‬‬

 

NESSI:  ‪I'd drink heavily if Bowie left me for Iggy Pop too‬‬

 

RAMOS:  ‪lol‬‬

 

NESSI:  ‪Really?? Ahh.. its seems you're going down a rabbit hole of your own...‬‬

 

aka - research

 

RAMOS:  ‪what are your thoughts on Bowie's last work?‬‬

 

NESSI:  ‪I watched the 10min Blackstar video back in November in Miami at 5am when I couldn't sleep from jet lag.‬‬

 

I was groggy and out of it but accepted the fact that I wouldn't be sleeping

 

 

David Bowie

Blackstar, 2015

Music Video

9 min., 59 sec.

NESSI:  ‪I actually managed to fall asleep right after watching the video.‬‬

With a sense of comfort

 

There's a strong presence of the occult in this work‬‬

 

I didn't try to over-analyze it… I just watched and listened

 

And all of it blew me away