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Fededico Nessi's favorite David Bowie picture.
NESSI: Hi there!
RAMOS: Hi Freddy
thank you for joining me
NESSI: Thanks for having me!
RAMOS: i am glad you suggested speaking about David Bowie
it was heartbreaking to face this reality that he is no longer an active member of this lifetime
NESSI: Heartbroken is exactly how I felt too
I've never reacted this way to the death of a stranger
RAMOS: it is hard to call him a stranger
NESSI: True. Although I never met him he's been an active part of my life...
But I always had a hard time relating to people grieving over the death of people that were not a tangible part of their lives….
RAMOS: i guess tangible is relative
NESSI: Celebrity deaths are so often linked to substance abuse. Although they of course remain sad, we've become desensitized to the notion of the tragic end of rock star.
But Bowie had transcended that...
RAMOS: Bowie had many years in sobriety... decades
one of the things i admired the most about him
NESSI: Exactly. He transcended everything really. When looking back at Bowie you think of his many personas of course. Even drugged out 70s Bowie, its impossible to fit him into the rock-star mold
RAMOS: let's start there... tell me about your favorite early Bowie video
NESSI: Well I first saw Space Oddity of course
Space Oddity, 1969
3 min., 48 sec.
NESSI: I was around 10 and remember being so stimulated by the androgynous nature of this being
This was the early 90s so I had seen my fair share of boy george-esque gender bending personalities
But Bowie was different
RAMOS: Space Oddity came out in 1969 right?
NESSI: Yes. Right around the time of first moon landing
RAMOS: ahhh i didn't make that connection
NESSI: Yeah! Space Oddity found success as the moon-landing song really..
It managed to humanize this event, hard to process by most at the time.
RAMOS: right.. from the perspective of the astronaut - it seems like the event was so nationalistic and political otherwise
NESSI: Definitely. Or simply a concept of science fiction, hard to grasp.
RAMOS: right... that too
its curious how "The Man Who Sold the World" came shortly after in 1970
NESSI: After obsessively reading about Bowie the past couple of weeks, its hard to think of anything as not completely premeditated and linked to some sort of psychic or cosmic calling
Did you know he was training to be a buddhist monk before deciding on a career in music?
RAMOS: i did not
but it does give me a sense of comfort and trust about his work
seems like artist do that after a career in music
NESSI: No, in his case his Buddhist teacher told him he'd make a more significant impact on the world through music….
He was right
NESSI: Anyway, Space Oddity was an obvious intro to Bowie for me. But if I have to pick an early video that really impacted me it would be Starman
3 min., 30 sec.
RAMOS: you think he is talking about God?
NESSI: Yes. God, the universe, the creator, the unknown...
But what really got me about this video was his confidence.
RAMOS: yes... absolutely
as if he knew something we didn't
as if it was all between him and God
and nothing else mattered
NESSI: Nothing else… and there is no doubt he was tapped into outer-worldly frequencies.
RAMOS: yes i can understand that - see that in his stare
"he told us not to blow it, cause he knows it's all worthwhile"
NESSI: hahahha we've sure blown in
But, yes, that confidence. As someone who's dabbled in performance, that confidence is all I could've ever hoped for.
RAMOS: why not?
why don't you make it just about you and "Source"
and trust that nothing else matters
NESSI: You have to trust in the importance of your message...
RAMOS: if you trust source then the message is not yours
you are simply the antenna
i see that in Bowie
he knew it wasn't his message
he was just the transmitter
NESSI: He was the messenger
the key is tapping into the message
not creating it from scratch
NESSI: Having the sensitivity and patience to be able to observe, process and interpret
…. and then turning out something universally significant. That's the kicker
RAMOS: well if it comes from source it is universal by nature
NESSI: The message can very easily get spoiled though
RAMOS: only if one tries to manipulate it
not if it's raw
NESSI: Yes. It all boils down to the 'transmitter' then.
RAMOS: keep the signal clear
his lead guitarist Mick Ronson died over twenty years ago
did you read about that?
in your research I mean
NESSI: I knew he had died. I also knew about their undoubtedly psychic musical connection (you can see that in the Starman video) but there was so much info thrown at me the past couple of weeks, I did not do more research on Mick Ronson.
Its funny to call it research actually
RAMOS: he died of liver cancer - most likely due to heavy drinking - i wonder if it had anything to do with Bowie getting sober
NESSI: I'm curious to know how closely linked they stayed after Bowie got sober….
I've got more research to do.
RAMOS: yes.... well Bowie got sober in the late 70s
I have no idea….
Maybe he drank heavily to overcome the loss of this relationship
RAMOS: i think they split in 1973
he drank heavily because he drank heavily
NESSI: You never know!
RAMOS: Mick later played with Morrisey
NESSI: I'd drink heavily if Bowie left me for Iggy Pop too
NESSI: Really?? Ahh.. its seems you're going down a rabbit hole of your own...
aka - research
RAMOS: what are your thoughts on Bowie's last work?
NESSI: I watched the 10min Blackstar video back in November in Miami at 5am when I couldn't sleep from jet lag.
I was groggy and out of it but accepted the fact that I wouldn't be sleeping
9 min., 59 sec.
NESSI: I actually managed to fall asleep right after watching the video.
With a sense of comfort
There's a strong presence of the occult in this work
I didn't try to over-analyze it… I just watched and listened
And all of it blew me away