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Conversation between Sinisa Kukec and Olivia Ramos.


Dr. Daniel Dennett

Breaking the Spell

Recorded Lecture, 1 hr., 4 min., 56 sec.

RAMOS:  ‪hi‬‬‬


KUKEC:  ‪HOLA! how have you been?‬‬‬


Sorry I was texting in analogies...


‪"I am tied to the stone waiting for your first swerve"‬‬‬


it wouldn't be my swerve would it?


do you know what a pugilist is?‬‬‬


let me look it up‬‬‬


a boxer?


‪I guess you can say that.‬‬‬


‪a master of hand-to-hand combat?‬‬‬


‪yes I guess that both a Boxer and Master of Hand to hand combat is correct in the three dimensional world... But yet again I am going to my romantic core...and  think and feel that "A Pugilist" some how exist in all of us... consciousness is the boxer and the stone is the body...‬‬‬


‪in some sense is that like the Dicrocoelium Dentriticum?‬‬‬


‪free-floating rationales‬‬‬


Ha! The Fluke! That was very good! Not sure... Ideologies are very much like Dicrocoelium Dentriticum... so sadly in a round about way, I guess  yeah floating... but I am not so sure about free.‬‬‬


are we all predetermined to fight?‬‬‬


for combat?


is that what you mean?


Never really certain what I mean... or what my intentions are I'm suspicious of my own memories... I've discovered that over time they can... they  can deceive... there once was a "time (?)" perhaps un masse "we" all fought...‬‬‬


after that video I am suspicious of my own intentions too‬‬‬


where they come from


and where they are going


for what service


i'm confused


where they come from... The Stewards of Humanity... the infamous "THEY"!‬‬‬


‪THEY or GOD ?‬‬‬


most of the time is one or the other




I feel Hofsteder's Ego creeping around again...




‪I am not sure... but in this existence.... this reality we can observe many Tangled Hierarchy's... a funny thing though... In quantum mechanics, particles do not have a definite state unless they’re being observed...‬‬‬


‪like that experiment with the cat in the box...‬‬‬


Schrodinger's cat


Chaos? Chance? The Higgs Boson... the god particle?‬‬‬


The God Particle  - isn't that a programmer's dream?‬‬‬


‪i guess it is easier to reference religion than computer science‬‬‬


well that all hinges on your programing...‬‬‬




the point being - did we acquire these believes as in free-floating rationales


‪every read Trainspotting, by Irvine Welsh?‬‬‬


or perhaps you say the movie?


I would guess the point being... to echo Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: [narrating] Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suit on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pissing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourselves. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose something' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?‬‬‬


My favorite part is... There are no reasons.‬‬‬


well... sure and this is a very interesting topic


on heroin you are perhaps disconnected from the free-floating rationales

and the represented rationales


on heroin you can make your own reality, existence, exit


you are completely disconnected


‪And what would you say is the heroin of the masses?‬‬‬


some will say religion‬‬‬


someone famous said "religion is the opiate of the masses"


Karl Marx


"religion is the opium of the people"


i think television used to be and now SOCIAL MEDIA


Yeah I think Marx never really understood why there was a middle class... I often wonder what our ideologies would be like if there never was the human "time" of AD. Also try imagine what the indigenous peoples of the northern and southern americas would be like today if they never had to experience genocide.‬‬‬


well look that the indigenous tribes in the amazon‬‬‬


there are still over 50 unidentified tribes


and hundreds undergoing transition


a good majority of them are dealing with the same issues as everyone else










and we collectively know as the west... are killing them slowly.


along with our selves..


‪perhaps killing ourselves is a free-floating rationale‬‬‬


or a represented rational


i would say the latter


mankind makes rules against one another


i don't think God ever made rules


only the stewards of humanity  that created "God" create the "Laws" the rational  ... that make humble people love and fear him... so imagine them saying or better yet simple doing.‬‬‬


‪so you think God has been "created" by humans?‬‬‬


That's my swerve.‬‬‬‬