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Conversation between Joseriberto Perez and Olivia Ramos.

 

Chayo Frank

Black #11 A, 2011

PEREZ: you have the tittles, what do they sound like‬‬?

 

‪RAMOS: there are not titles‬‬

 

‪I like paintings with no tittles

 

aren't we talking about sculptures?

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‪I look at them  like paintings, the color patterns and textures remind me of contemporary practices within both sculpture and painting

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I don't at all. To me they seem spatial and structural and coralesque

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yes they definitely do have those elements, they are ceramic sculptures but i think of the application and the end result as a product of a process similar to one might find in painting.

Chayo Frank

#04 B, 2004

the time line of his practice is fascinating, Chayo Frank starts making sculptures in 1968-69 then there is a thirty year gap in which he takes over Amertec Granada Inc, then goes back to doing the same sculptures at the turn of the century. These later sculptures pick up right where he left off, as if no time has passed at all.

 

‬‬‪Moreover in 1967 he gets an architecture degree and designs and builds a crazy building at the age of 23 to quit architecture right after it's completed in 1969.‬‬

Chayo Frank

Amertec Building, 1969

149 W 21 ST, Hialeah, FL

maybe sculpture served a better or quicker outlet for the forms, as opposed to the scale and mass of architecture

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look at this building

 

Chayo Frank

Amertec Building, 1969

149 W 21 ST, Hialeah, FL

yeah its amazing i don't know why its so unknown in Miami and why its abandoned, our mini Gaudi.

 

Chayo Frank did this before Frank Gehry got crazy with his work in the late 70s.

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‪I see how the surfaces of each of the sculptures translates into larger elements when implemented architecturally

 

for example I found many of the surfaces to be reminiscent of wall treatments and decorative motifs

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yes and also some of them feel like maquettes, according to his website they are all concepts for buildings, or at the building scale

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Chayo Frank

Photomontage

‪it look like godzilla art, the play on scale, tweaking the small image of the sculpture into a landscapes.‬‬

 

I can't believe Chayo didn't continue architecture. The Amertec Building reminds me of famous Synagogues in Miami, like the Cuban American Temple of Beth Shmuel by architect Oscar Sklar or the Temple Israel of Greater Miami by architect Kenneth Treister.

Oscar Sklar

Temple Beth Shmuel, 1982

1700 Michigan Ave, Miami Beach, FL 33139

Kenneth Treister

Temple Israel, 1962

137 NE 19 ST, Miami, FL

there was no reference to architecture in the Guccivuitton show

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not at all, at the show the sculptures were completely out of context, assuming the sculptures are inherently architectural

 

thats why I experienced the sculptures as finalized objects to walk around as opposed to within

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‪I might agree with you, they are sculptures

 

architecture today is highly treated like giant sculptures

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i think its interesting you stress looking at the sculptures as mini buildings

 

‪i don't see them as mini buildings, but when I see the sculptures in photo-montage within the context of nature, at the scale of architecture, I assume a desire to want to be a building ‬‬

 

the photo-montage make the sculptures look like massive sculptures and not a building

 

If the sculptures where blown up and given interiors

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there is little function, purpose, responsibility

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depends and maybe those things can be worked into them

 

already having an organic form that looks like nature, might have potential to work with additional program and tech development, and become a non-invasive architecture, like a mountain

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so jam program into a sculpture and call it architecture

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treating a building like a living thing

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a building is a living thing, look at the human body for example

if you were to design a new one, would you build the form first and then try to get the organs to work?

 

you would build the organs to function within a system, the organs change and evolve within it, cant the idea of the sculpture and building do the same?

 

would you stretch out your large intestine just so the form is to your liking?

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from a creative side, the sculpture is a good start to work out ideas, something to glean from

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ever heard of ‪form follows function,‬ it's a modernist thing

 

ever heard of cavesa dura, thats not how all things are created

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