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Ramos: do you think of this piece as a narrative or a series of facts?
Avendano: More of a series of facts
I definitely see the series of facts being spewed together rawly
oddly connected to one another
its more a stream of consciousness
Ramos: and these connections... are those factual as well?
or is there narrative there?
Avendano: As factual as a simple conversation over coffee can be, some are poignant truths and some are quite over embellishments
its a unconscious narrative through a conversation
I see it as an experiment in conversation
almost like a first date, there has to be some semblance of a trajectory but it can easily evolve into something completely non-linear
Ramos: give me an example of a fact
Avendano: see the superposition of the image “I keep hitting the space bar but i’m still on earth” as a handwritten drawing
and how it juxtaposes the glitched background behind it
it take that primal sentiment in emotion where i open up to some anecdote from my childhood
and begin to tell the story on this fictions date, and watch that image decompose itself
Ramos: perhaps there is the fact that we humans here on earth are constantly trying to escape it and it creates a glitch in our existence
Avendano: thats exactly where the deviations in our narrative come out of
each attempt at escape produces a new array of possibility, for a future beyond escape, or for forgoing escape
that glitch in existence is the traversal and decomposition of these possibilities in time
Ramos: i see now how Tom Cruse fits in
Avendano: Tom Cruise is a tangential reference to that terrible post-matrix sci-fi movie
Ramos: oh not Scientology?
Avendano: that connection was too easy
it was more for this terrible movie
Ramos: what movie?
Avendano: Minority Report
he is able to predict the future following some weird trajectory and tries REALLY HARD to avoid his fate and somehow ends up with that truth
that absolute fate of occurrence of that event
that i think is the real joke
Ramos: an event that was never meant to happen and the illusion of it made it real
and yet, the mathematical illusion of realizing that agency in developing that action determines a course of action
Ramos: what percentage of your life is a complete illusion?
Avendano: i’d say 90%
probably 99%, but the coffee and sandwich i had today was awesome
theres no way Spinoza would allow me to think that i’m just fooling myself
Ramos: who is Spinoza?
Avendano: Hegel once said that all contemporary philosophers are either Spinozists or not philosophers at all
Ramos: give me the cliff notes on his work
Avendano: He writes about monadology, the idea where our perceptions of reality are only developed at impositions onto our “bubble” or monad
and the environment we live in, the computers that we’re typing on, and the tea i just drank are fictitious images in our mind, superimposed by our mind developing that
Ramos: is this related to the God Particle?
Avendano: If God was as self-centered as humans naturally are
Ramos: no no Higgs boson, in which different subatomic particles are responsible for giving matter different properties
or in this case realities or illussions
Avendano: yea, if we are the higgs boson
we are the progenitors of these different properties and the illusions of the interactions with other particles
Ramos: but doesn't Spinoza say that they all come from the same place?
Avendano: they do
Ramos: is it the same place in our mind or the same place as a collective whole - Monism says that everything is derived from The One
Avendano: more as the collective whole, but imagine the whole from the voyeur, this perceptive mind
we all are individually replicated from The One, and thus with different vantage points of the truth, we develop these different realities
Ramos: or different illusions
Ramos: but there is one truth
Ramos: and your piece, it portrays all the illusion as facts
or a series of them
rather than the one truth
Avendano: its a conversation from different angles of the same truth
each fact represents an image, or in better terms
Ramos: the truth that our realities are an illusion
so these vantage points together is an experiment of trying to redevelop that truth
these gifs as a means of communication are an image of an emotion or sentiment of that truth, and this conversation, a series of non-linear connections of facts, are acting to try to rebuild the emotional sentiment of that truth
of that feeling
Ramos: you mentioned earlier "If God was as self-centered as humans naturally are"
are these illusions due to the fact that we are so self-centered?
is this piece about your illusion or the collective illusion
Avendano: self-centered is a great term talking about physical orientation of the same thing
and thats how the illusions are naturally developed, from our creation of these vantage points, that deviate away from the natural truth
God is all-seeing and all-knowing, so his vantage is the totality of the space of truth
Ramos: I am now noticing a few body parts in the bunch
Avendano: everyone loves body parts
gotta give something to the people
Ramos: is that what the models are for too?
or is that another illusion?
Avendano: easily for eye candy
or sometimes in my case, arm candy
Ramos: arm candy... what do you mean by that?
Avendano: its just another illusion of reality that just happens to be nestled around my arm for the bougie wine and cheese events
Besides the experiment, i really just tried to paint the image of the first date
Ramos: how come you don't mention that in the description or title?
“143” is a study of the interaction between the humanization of pop culture in its most dehumanized form of communication through GIFs through the compilation of conformed moving images and the desensitization of existentialism through the lens of the basic primordial instincts of dreams as a repetitive discussion of absurdism, in an attempt to recreate and rehumanize human communication. Reverse Fourier Transforming the GIFs to find true meaning.
Avendano: because i’m already too self-centered - if i just told everyone that this is how i see what a first date is like
i also would like a few more first dates in the near future
Ramos: let's talk about first dates then
is this the ultimate illusion?
Avendano: ARENT THEY REALLY WEIRD
Ramos: it depends
why can't we be honest in a first date?
Avendano: its more of the presentation of the ultimate illusion
Ramos: but why?
doesn't it all unfold eventually?
Avendano: honesty is relative to our vantage point
Ramos: or the end goal... is "getting to know each other" outdated?
Avendano: it isn’t outdated, its more of a thought experiment of how much of how i see truth matches up how you see truth
Ramos: so you think it's honest?
Avendano: to each individual
Ramos: I guess you can say our illusions are honest
Avendano: and thats why first dates are weird in that sense, people are willing to show their view of life, for the risk of it being maybe not collinear with that of the other person
its surprisingly very intimate for being at arms length from everything
Ramos: i wonder, with this new, or not so new, Internet dating... what percentage of first dates go on second dates
Avendano: i say 99% don’t, its all more deviations from the truth, i still leave that sliver left over, because jeez that sandwich today was incredible
that couldn’t be an illusion how delicious that was