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Ramos:  ‪do you think of this piece as a narrative or a series of facts?‬‬

 

Avendano:  ‪More of a series of facts‬‬

 

I definitely see the series of facts being spewed together rawly

 

oddly connected to one another

 

its more a stream of consciousness

 

Ramos:  ‪and these connections... are those factual as well?‬‬

 

or is there narrative there?

 

Avendano:  ‪As factual as a simple conversation over coffee can be, some are poignant truths‬‬ and some are quite over embellishments

 

its a unconscious narrative through a conversation

 

I see it as an experiment in conversation

 

almost like a first date, there has to be some semblance of a trajectory but it can easily evolve into something completely non-linear

 

Ramos:  ‪give me an example of a fact‬‬

 

Avendano:  ‪see the superposition of the image “I keep hitting the space bar but i’m still on earth” as a handwritten drawing

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and how it juxtaposes the glitched background behind it

 

it take that primal sentiment in emotion where i open up to some anecdote from my childhood

 

and begin to tell the story on this fictions date, and watch that image decompose itself

 

Ramos:  perhaps there is the fact that we humans here on earth are constantly trying to escape it and it creates a glitch in our existence

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Avendano:  ‪thats exactly where the deviations in our narrative come out of

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each attempt at escape produces a new array of possibility, for a future beyond escape, or for forgoing escape

 

that glitch in existence is the traversal and decomposition of these possibilities in time

 

Ramos:  ‪i see now how Tom Cruse fits in

 

Avendano:  ‪Tom Cruise is a tangential reference to that terrible post-matrix sci-fi movie‬‬

 

Ramos:  ‪oh not Scientology?

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Avendano:  ‪that connection was too easy‬‬

 

it was more for this terrible movie

 

Ramos:  ‪what movie?‬‬

 

Avendano:  ‬Minority Report

 

‪he is able to predict the future following some weird trajectory and tries REALLY HARD to avoid his fate and somehow ends up with that truth

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that absolute fate of occurrence of that event

 

that i think is the real joke

 

Ramos:  ‪an event that was never meant to happen and the illusion of it made it real

 

Avendano:  ‪exactly‬‬

 

and yet, the mathematical illusion of realizing that agency in developing that action determines a course of action

 

Ramos:  ‪what percentage of your life is a complete illusion?‬‬

 

Avendano:  ‪i’d say 90%‬‬

 

probably 99%, but the coffee and sandwich i had today was awesome

theres no way Spinoza would allow me to think that i’m just fooling myself

 

Ramos:  ‪who is Spinoza?‬‬

 

Avendano:  ‪Hegel once said that all contemporary philosophers are either Spinozists or not philosophers at all‬‬

 

Ramos:  ‪give me the cliff notes on his work‬‬

 

Avendano:  ‪He writes about monadology, the idea where our perceptions of reality are only developed at impositions onto our “bubble” or monad

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and the environment we live in, the computers that we’re typing on, and the tea i just drank are fictitious images in our mind, superimposed by our mind developing that

 

Ramos:  ‪is this related to the God Particle?

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Avendano:  ‪If God was as self-centered as humans naturally are

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Ramos:  ‪‬no no Higgs boson, in which different subatomic particles are responsible for giving matter different properties

 

or in this case realities or illussions

 

Avendano:  ‪yea, if we are the higgs boson

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we are the progenitors of these different properties and the illusions of the interactions with other particles

 

Ramos:  ‪but doesn't Spinoza say that they all come from the same place?

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Avendano:  ‪they do‬‬

 

from self

 

Ramos:  ‪is it the same place in our mind or the same place as a collective whole‬‬ - Monism says that everything is derived from The One

 

Avendano:  ‪more as the collective whole, but imagine the whole from the voyeur, this perceptive mind‬‬

 

‪we all are individually replicated from The One, and thus with different vantage points of the truth, we develop these different realities‬‬

 

Ramos:  ‪or different illusions‬‬

 

Avendano:  ‪exactly‬‬

 

Ramos:  ‪but there is one truth‬‬

 

Avendano:  ‪only‬‬

 

Ramos:  ‪and your piece, it portrays all the illusion as facts‬‬

 

or a series of them

 

rather than the one truth

 

Avendano:  ‪its a conversation from different angles of the same truth‬‬

each fact represents an image, or in better terms

 

Ramos:  ‪the truth that our realities are an illusion‬‬

 

Avendano:  ‪right‬‬

 

so these vantage points together is an experiment of trying to redevelop that truth

 

these gifs as a means of communication are an image of an emotion or sentiment of that truth, and this conversation, a series of non-linear connections of facts, are acting to try to rebuild the emotional sentiment of that truth

 

of that feeling

 

Ramos:  ‪you mentioned earlier "If God was as self-centered as humans naturally are"‬‬

 

are these illusions due to the fact that we are so self-centered?

 

is this piece about your illusion or the collective illusion

 

Avendano:  ‪self-centered is a great term talking about physical orientation of the same thing

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and thats how the illusions are naturally developed, from our creation of these vantage points, that deviate away from the natural truth

 

God is all-seeing and all-knowing, so his vantage is the totality of the space of truth

 

Ramos:  I am now noticing a few body parts in the bunch‬‬

 

Avendano:  ‪everyone loves body parts‬‬

 

gotta give something to the people

 

Ramos:  ‪is that what the models are for too?‬‬

 

or is that another illusion?

 

Avendano:  ‪easily for eye candy‬‬

 

or sometimes in my case, arm candy

 

Ramos:  ‪arm candy... what do you mean by that?‬‬

 

Avendano:  ‪its just another illusion of reality that just happens to be nestled around my arm for the bougie wine and cheese events‬‬

 

Besides the experiment,‬‬ i really just tried to paint the image of the first date

 

Ramos:  ‪how come you don't mention that in the description or title?‬‬

 

“143” is a study of the interaction between the humanization of pop culture in its most dehumanized form of communication through GIFs through the compilation of conformed moving images and the desensitization of existentialism through the lens of the basic primordial instincts of dreams as a repetitive discussion of absurdism, in an attempt to recreate and rehumanize human communication. Reverse Fourier Transforming the GIFs to find true meaning.

 

Avendano:  ‪because i’m already too self-centered - if i just told everyone that this is how i see what a first date is like‬‬

 

i also would like a few more first dates in the near future

 

Ramos:  ‪let's talk about first dates then‬‬

 

is this the ultimate illusion?

 

Avendano:  ‪ARENT THEY REALLY WEIRD

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Ramos:  ‪it depends‬‬

 

why can't we be honest in a first date?

 

Avendano:  ‪its more of the presentation of the ultimate illusion‬‬

 

Ramos:  ‪but why?‬‬

 

doesn't it all unfold eventually?

 

Avendano:  ‪honesty is relative to our vantage point‬‬

 

Ramos:  ‪or the end goal... is "getting to know each other" outdated?‬‬

 

Avendano:  ‪it isn’t outdated, its more of a thought experiment of how much of how i see truth matches up how  you see truth‬‬

 

Ramos:  ‪so you think it's honest?‬‬

 

Avendano:  ‪to each individual‬‬

 

Ramos:  ‪I guess you can say our illusions are honest‬‬

 

Avendano:  ‪and thats why first dates are weird in that sense, people are willing to show their view of life, for the risk of it being maybe not collinear with that of the other person‬‬

 

its surprisingly very intimate for being at arms length from everything

 

Ramos:  ‪i wonder, with this new, or not so new, Internet dating... what percentage of first dates go on second dates‬‬

 

Avendano:  ‪i say 99% don’t, its all more deviations from the truth, i still leave that sliver left over, because jeez that sandwich today was incredible‬‬

 

that couldn’t be an illusion how delicious that was